Yes, We Have Problems--But Yes, It Really IS This Simple

Let's face it: McCain has been doing better in the polls lately.  The Gallup tracker shows McCain even with Obama today, while the Pollster composite shows him gaining (though still far behind).  As Sean points out over at Nate Silver's place, this is mostly due to McCain's shoring up his conservative base.

Meanwhile, McCain's lurch toward negative campaigning and embrace of GOP talking points doesn't (yet) seem to have hurt him all that much with independents and moderates.  Yes, it's early: polls this far out don't mean much; most people are watching Michael Phelps, not a bunch of guys arguing in suits; the conventions and debates will change the landscape; the really negative ads haven't really started yet.  Still, it's worth considering how to stem McCain's momentum such as it is, and how best to reverse the trend.

Fortunately, the presidential and generic cross-tabs from Rasmussen help us do just that.  While most intelligent people in the progressive blogosphere are still bullish on Obama's chances in November, the picture Rasmussen paints should be of concern even to the most sanguine and confident of progressive prognosticators.  The problem is that on most issues, Obama is underperforming the generic ballot.

Now, when individual candidates underperform the generic ballot overall, analysts rightly state that we elect candidates, not generic ballots: the point being that character and personal issues often gum up the works.  Dodging the issues while focusing on "character" and "values" has, after all, been the saving strategy of Republicans for decades.

But that's not the problem.  Obama is underperforming on the issues.

Consider these numbers:





ISSUEMcCainObamaGOPDems
Iraq51%39%40%49%
Economy45%44%39%51%

Yes, you read that right: McCain has big leads over Obama on both Iraq and the economy, despite the fact that Democrats in general blow away Republicans in general on both these issues.  This isn't a "character" problem: it's an "issues" problem.

Let's look at a few others:









ISSUEMcCainObamaGOPDems
National Security51%40%44%48%
Social Security44%38%37%45%
Ethics39%46%28%44%
Healthcare41%46%37%52%
Abortion40%34%36%43%
Immigration45%36%35%45%

And the list goes on and on. At first glance, these numbers are really disheartening.  But they are actually excellent news for Obama partisans like myself--provided that we use this information to act quickly over the next few months.

Because what this means is that many voters are not rejecting Obama based upon character, but rather on issues--and we're still winning by small margins in the national vote, and by wider margins in the electoral college.  Note that Obama actually leads McCain on "ethics".

The challenge, then, is blindingly simple: Make Obama the Democrat in the race, and make John McCain the Republican.  It seems obvious, but that's all there really is to it.

John McCain is not being seen as the Republican in this race.  Many voters seem to still be buying into his image as a "moderate" and a "maverick."  Meanwhile, Obama's tacks toward the center combined with lingering resentments and suspicions about his position on issues like abortion among Clinton voters are raising questions among some Democrats about his progressive credentials.

We won't win this race by assaulting McCain's character.  The $520 loafers, the 10 houses, the flip-flopping, the mental incapacity, etc. are good things to remind people of.  But when all is said and done, victory and defeat in November will depend upon reminding people that McCain really is a Republican running for Bush's 3rd term.

For his part, Obama won't win this race by tacking to the center, either.  All Obama needs to do is come out convincingly as the Democrat.  Recent moves on FISA and oil drilling come to mind here.  They aren't a huge deal, but too many more such moves will hurt much more than they help.  All Obama needs to do is stay the course as the Democrat in the race, and paint McCain as the Republican.

And yes, it really is that simple.



Display:


tips (2.00 / 10)

for a renewed focus on the issues.


It's all about McCain/Bush now...
by thereisnospoon on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 04:40:47 PM EST

That's obviously... (2.00 / 2)

What needs to be done. It looks like my worst fears are coming true as McCain & the GOP are making this election a referendum on the person of Obama (Is he really American? Is he Christian? Is he black? Is he "lib'rul"?) instead of a referendum on the policies of Bush-Cheney-McCain. We need to turn this ship around... FAST!

While Obama & the DNC are doing a good start, they still have work to do to repair the damage that's been done.


We shall overcome!
by atdleft on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:01:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: That's obviously... (none / 0)

Dead on it. After the convention, they had better go into high gear and start fighting back harder.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:09:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: That's obviously... (none / 0)

that's not it, no one is really paying that much attention to McCain, Barack is losing his momentum and it started in February.  he has a message, but he stopped giving it while he was running against Hillary, his campaign and his message were at odds and his campaign won.

HIs message, in case anyone has forgotten, is the empathy deficit, being sick of partisan fighting and unpleasant manners.  he wants to respect all sides, and if he can give some accommodation to all sides, especially if it's symbolic.  He wants consensus and respect to all sides, even if he disagrees strongly.

That's why the issues for him are flexible, they depend on getting some form of consensus, and he more says what he's willing to give up than willing to fight for.  We saw that in his 'present' votes that showed he took the middle ground on some important issues, he could speak for both points of view, and show that respect. This worked for him in Illinois politics, so far it's costing him his momentum. He doesn't clearly explain why he'd be willing to give up a ban on offshore drilling, what he'd have to get to give up on that. He gives away his 'concessions' before he's got anything in return.  

The best and only way he can make his message real is to reach to the 18 mil who voted for her and put her on his ticket. I think he's already decided on that, and that Hillary is working on the convention with him, wonder when she'll get to take a vacation, probably after the GE, if they lose.  He has to show his stuff, not just say it, but right now he ought to do both, explain clearly what he's for and why and where he thinks that will get us, how that will help ordinary people live, but he also has to show it, or he'll be just words, and it won't matter what McCain says.  

Of course he could squeak a win anyway, but then he'd be a weak president and expected to give even more concessions than he likely has in mind.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 05:46:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Fun MYDD game (2.00 / 1)

Read the content of the post, then slowly scroll down to see if you can guess who wrote it.  This time I totally knew it was Anna Shane!


Saxby Chambliss: Asshat
by mikeinsf on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 06:30:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fun MYDD game (none / 0)

because it's sooo right on?  (thanks)  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:13:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fun MYDD game (none / 0)

merely predictable


Saxby Chambliss: Asshat
by mikeinsf on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:45:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fun MYDD game (none / 0)

works for me, I've always been consistent.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:46:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fun MYDD game (none / 0)

indeed


Saxby Chambliss: Asshat
by mikeinsf on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:29:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

"Make Obama the Democrat in the race . . . (2.00 / 5)

, and make John McCain the Republican"
But in the primaries, he ran as almost post partisan, with post partisan cross party appeal, and he hasn't yet shifted gears.  It seems Republicans-for-Obama get greeted and heralded with more fanfare than old school democrats for Obama.  
In fact, how many times has a constituent group of our party been told on these pages, 'we don't need you'?  Guess what?  YOU DO.
Again, I'll paraphrase Harry Truman - - given the choice between a real Republican and a phony Republican, the real Republican wins.
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 04:45:03 PM EST

Those polls belie a different meaning. (2.00 / 2)

The voters don't see a real Republican in McCain, they see a real Moderate and Obama as a fake Moderate. Despite it all, voters still see McCain as post-partisan. We can fix that by simply forcing him to run on his own platform instead of the one people think he's running on.

Classic case in point. McCain says in his "maverick" ad that he will take on Big Oil. What exactly does he mean by that? He opposes all measures to take on Big Oil in every way, shape and form. Let's force him to either tell the truth or tell a blatant lie and then disprove it.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 05:04:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Those polls belie a different meaning. (2.00 / 1)

"Classic case in point. McCain says in his "maverick" ad that he will take on Big Oil. What exactly does he mean by that? He opposes all measures to take on Big Oil in every way, shape and form. Let's force him to either tell the truth or tell a blatant lie and then disprove it."

Yes, but instead, the MSM spends days on Paris Hilton instead.

I'm begining to think Obama IS losing the ad war, just because all the media talks about is the McCain negative ads...

Somehow, I guess, Obama needs to stay true to his message of not going negative, but really start to pour it on McCain...

And, time is getting short, he'd better pick it up post convention.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 05:11:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

We have no one to blame but ourselves. (2.00 / 4)

The senate party leadership (ie, Daschle, who's now neck deep in Obama's leadership) sucked up to McCain in 2000 - 2002, trying to get him to jump parties with Jeffords.  And, in 2004, Kerry was ready to give him State and Defense if he joined Kerry's ticket as VP.  You can't offer someone VP in 2004 and then portray him as a hard core asshat 4 years later . . . even if he is a hard core ass hat.
And, unfortunately, the Republicans did (accidently and unintentionally) nominate their least odious candidate - - still odious, but the least odious.
And and therw was a little too much opportunistic putting down of old school demo partisanship during the primaries . . . it's called turning off your base (or parts thereof).
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 05:16:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: We have no one to blame but ourselves. (2.00 / 1)

True, McCain was my last choice, Rudy, Mitt, any of the others.

If they were just stupid enough to Nom Fred Thompson.

McCain has always scared me, they press absolutely covers his ass....


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 05:23:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

He's the best of a rotten bunch - - (2.00 / 1)

in public opinion, media opinion, and really in fact.  
We need to deal with that.  He's not Romney, and it's an error to campaign against McCain as if he is.
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 06:07:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: He's the best of a rotten bunch - - (2.00 / 1)

I disagree about "in fact."

Maybe John McCain circa 2000?

This guy seems right to be a bush type not really into the details, with advisors telling what to do.

He's not the sharp edge Mccain he as back then, I can see him being a bit of a puppet.

Not that I like any of them better, but, I would prefer McCain 2000 to this guy, he seems out of it to me.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 06:18:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Definitely - he whored to the far right (2.00 / 1)

to get the nomination - - that was his lesson of 2000.


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 06:38:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Besides moving right, the light has gone dim (2.00 / 2)

More then that, having Lieberman whisper in his ear, having Phil Gramm be his economic guy?

I really believed him when the first time he objected to the Bush tax cuts as bad in a time of war, only helping the upper 1%.

Now, I think, he just spits up whatever Gramm tells him.

At one time, I do think he was a bit of a shoot from the hip maverick? Now, he seems just a tired old man, who waited Bush out, and now just is going through the motions.

He would be a cerimonial Prez in my mind, doing what his advisor told him to do.

Plus, I really think, he's a bit like Bush in that we can fix the world with the military-messianic without the Jesus complex Bush has.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 06:42:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

lol (none / 0)

uhhh...yeah.  Sure.  Whatever you say.


It's all about McCain/Bush now...
by thereisnospoon on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 05:15:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

He DIDN'T run as post partisan (2.00 / 2)

with cross party appeal?  Really?


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 05:18:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: He DIDN'T run as post partisan (2.00 / 1)

I say the onus on you. What positions did he take during the primary that are most often pushed by Republicans?


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:07:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: He DIDN'T run as post partisan (none / 0)

kosnomore is another Mctroll.

Don't rec this, pls.


Killing me softly with his song
by Miles Outlandish on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 09:41:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]

He's trailing on the economy? (2.00 / 3)

The economy one is really baffling.

Is that because of "Drill our way out of it?" and
McCain is winning the energy gas battle?

Or Obama is being painted as Tax and Spend?

Great post, yes, if Obama doesn't get out in front on economic issues, he will lose those midwest hard hit states and lose the election.

The polls don't and haven't scared me, but your analisis and breakdown does.

Rec'ed


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 04:46:48 PM EST

Re: Because Obama is fighting on their turf: faith (none / 0)

Actually I think that's just you - I know they freak out about that at Alegre's place but it's hardly front page news anywhere else.  The biggest issues to come up in the election are the price of gas, and lately, Georgia.  Every single one of Obama's ads "substance" ads are on the economy.


I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!
by Jess81 on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 09:34:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yes, We Have Problems--But Yes, It Really IS T (2.00 / 2)

The strategy of trying to tie John Mccain with Bush would not be enough to carry Obama across the finish line.

If he cannot show he is ready to lead and close or at least make people comfortable that he can be commander in chief he won't cross the finish line.

The debates , the conventions and the VP pick might go a long way to address that liability .

With the Georgia crisis , national security would still be at the top of voter concerns as well as the economy and Mccain handled himself well , Obama was ok .

As far as going after Mccain's character , it won't work in my view . What he went through in Vietnam has shown his individual character and whatever attack on him as far as his character is concerned will be diffused or diluted by that in the eyes of the voter since he has decided to put the Vietnam issue upfront.

Not too many people can show that amount of courage and honor under that type of challenge..


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 05:10:48 PM EST

Let's try an exercise. (2.00 / 1)

Let's look at McCain's life while pretending that the POW thing never happened. What has made him honorable? You say he developed honor back then. What has presented itself as evidence of that? I say that whatever honor was gained from it has been offset by his consistent usage of it as a political tool.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:11:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I would answer (none / 0)

Others might, I wouldn't. McCain has built his career on political posturing. He's the worst kind of career politician. And by more than one account, he's not that bright, either.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 06:15:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yes, We Have Problems--But Yes, It Really IS T (2.00 / 1)

Courage demonstrated over 35 years ago..
means he was brave over 36 years ago...

Here is McCain Now..
Pimping his wife..no courage required..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phjDm05E9 Qw


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:11:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yes, YOU have problems! (2.00 / 1)

"Let's face it: McCain has been doing better in the polls lately."

Breaking! Smudge Report...
The Commie Dems in Congress abolish Popular VOTE.
Replace it with something called "The Electoral College." Partisan change dooms McCain

(see map upper left of MyDD front page and this
http://www.pollster.com/)

Do not use the pronoun "we" if you are not a part of our "we".


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 06:52:00 PM EST

Re: Yes, YOU have problems! (none / 0)

huh?


It's all about McCain/Bush now...
by thereisnospoon on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 08:26:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Sorry spoon. (2.00 / 3)

I haven't seen you around here much since myDD became the JV version of dKos. So you may not realize that it doesn't matter that you were part of the original "we". To be a part of the new "we", you can't point out the truth. You can't say that Obama is underperforming in the polls and offer common sense solutions to correct the problem. If you are going to point out such pesky details, then you absolutely have to follow that up by explaining how it is REALLY good news for Obama. Anything less will usually lead to the assumption that you are a concern troll, and you will be treated accordingly around these parts.


by georgiapeach on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:35:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yes,This Simple (2.00 / 1)

Speaking of the map on MyDD..
Why is it Colorado shows up red..but when clicked..
shows uncalled..same with at least FL?
"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 06:56:17 PM EST

Re: Yes,This Simple (none / 0)

I think the latest polling in FL shows it swinging back to McCain.

Not sure that state was ever really in the Obama camp, if he wins FL, he is on the way to the big win.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:12:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yes,This Simple (none / 0)

This is starting to concern me as well.  I live in Volusia county, one of the bluest counties in Florida.  Recently, I have begun to see a 'spring like' blossoming of McCain yard signs and bumper stickers.  For every 20 McCain signs, I have seen one Obama sticker.  I have yet to see one Obama yard sign, and I travel the county in my job.  

Yes folks, the treatment of Florida during the primaries does have consequences.  I'm hoping that folks come to their senses here.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 06:59:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yes, This Simple (none / 0)

Yep..I would never argue with  this swing...
http://www.pollster.com/polls/fl/08-fl-p res-ge-mvo.php

Obama does NOT have a chance in FL???..

of course...there is always
Friday tap yer toes music

a tip of the hat to McSame
(we and FL will not be fooled again)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3mi-bKtD GA


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:28:21 PM EST

Re: Yes, This Simple (2.00 / 1)

Well, LOVE to think he has a chance, and, I do think, Obama wins Florida, his train is rolling across the country....

Still, with the games they can play in Florida, not sure Charlie Crist won't try to outdo Jeb to "help" his friend McCain in the state.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:35:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yes,this Simple (none / 0)

Oh yeah...feel free to google "Nate's silver place"
as sited by this diarist...

This is after all her/his priority link..and who can argue with Sean?  ...
I may have to retract all of my above comments...

Decades ago...FYI...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHz xc


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:40:35 PM EST

Re: Yes,this Simple (2.00 / 1)

idiot, Nate Silver is poblano of FiveThirtyEight.com, recently profiled in Newsweek and multiple other places, who got more primary prognostications right than most pollsters.

He is also a renowned baseball statistician whose methods for determining the success of teams in the future are still second to none.


It's all about McCain/Bush now...
by thereisnospoon on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 08:29:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yes, We Have Problems--But Yes, It Really IS T (none / 0)

idiot, Nate Silver is poblano of FiveThirtyEight.com, recently profiled in Newsweek and multiple other places, who got more primary prognostications right than most pollsters.

He is also a renowned baseball statistician whose methods for determining the success of teams in the future are still second to none.


It's all about McCain/Bush now...
by thereisnospoon on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 08:29:23 PM EST

"yes, but" (2.00 / 1)

Fair enough, although I have to point out that there isn't a single flesh and blood candidate who would actually match the generic numbers for the democrats this year.  

Your point is good, but I think the problem is much deeper - people don't know who McCain is at all: they're just assuming he thinks like they do.  Case in point, people prefer his abortion position over Obama's despite the fact that they prefer the generic Democratic position, and both candidates are dead down the middle of the mainstream of their parties on that one.  How to explain it?  They think McCain is a moderate on abortion, and people like moderates on issues they regard as social or moral.  But there's nothing moderate about his stance.

Go down the list and you'll find that what I'm saying is true on a lot of issues: people don't know where McCain stands, and will continue to think that he's a centrist until they're told otherwise.

So there are a few things we need to do - campaign positively and specifically on issues like "the economy" (why that's lumped in as ONE issue I'll never understand), but on other issues we have to make it about McCain.


I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!
by Jess81 on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 08:33:51 PM EST

that's because.... (2.00 / 1)

while McCain is hitting hard against Russia, and people are dying over there, Condi making all kinds of noise.....

Obama is doing this:
"Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., body surfs at Sandy Beach in Honolulu, Hawaii, Thursday, Aug. 14, 2008. Sen. Obama is in Hawaii for a vacation"

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1 131ap_obama_vacation.html

sorry - don't know how to imbed a photo!!


by nikkid on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 02:20:08 AM EST

Re: that's because.... (none / 0)

Oh is that why?  How many vacations has McCain taken since the year started?  (Hint: it's more than two).  Why not post pictures of those?

Never mind, I'll let you continue with your John-Kerry-windsurfer-reprise.


I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!
by Jess81 on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 09:30:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yes, (none / 0)

Point taken in regard to Nate..

However,; where is Obama in trouble in regard to electoral votes?
Hey I am an idiot..but this does not look like real trouble
http://www.pollster.com/

However I am not stupid enough to believe it's a done deal...
Wait until the real campaigns start up..after the tale of two cities is over...

I will predict right now Colorado will deliver Obama and Udall.

Every time McCain opens his mouth he demonstrates his inadequacy.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/08/world -according-to-mccain-georgia-is.html

Here in Colorado we have had a heavy cycle of McCain ads for a month...Obama still leads...

538 has Obama in the Electoral
287.7

McCain
250.3

I believe this is McCain's ceiling.
..
Nate's latest post isn't real doom and gloom for Obama

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/f riday-afternoon-leftovers.html


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 09:35:04 AM EST

Re: Yes, We Have Problems--But Yes, It Really IS T (2.00 / 1)

I agree with your conclusion, that Obama needs to make this about the issues again and get away from the focus on character.  It has been a serious blunder to allow McCain to make this election a referendum on Obama as a person and a leader.  

However, it should be noted that these questions, which ask about "trust" regarding a certain issue really tap some kind of composite of opinions about both issues and the character of the person.  They may trust Obama less on the issues not because they disagree with him but because they are not sold on his experience or ability to deal with them.


John McCain: Extending SCHIP would be an "unfunded liability."
by Fuzzy Dunlop on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 04:32:37 PM EST

Re: Problems?-- This Simple (none / 0)

Bottom line...
If the Obama Campaign was able to defeat the Clinton Campaign...

The Obama Campaign will be able to defeat the McCain Campaign..


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:18:12 PM EST

Obama won't run an issues campaign (none / 0)

Axelrod and Obama were clear from the beginning that they were going to run a character campaign and beat the Republicans at their own game. Obama is not going to switch to an issues campaign now.

Obama is a moderate and a natural compromiser, his "post-partisan" schtick is more than just a schtick. It is hard to nail him down on any particular issue or principle because his core belief is that the truth is outside the Republican and Democratic duality, which in practice means it is between them. He can't run an issues campaign because he has no strong position on any particular issue, and he can't fake it. His one strong position, opposing Iraq, is retrospective, in practical terms he holds the consensus view that we should withdraw from Iraq unless circumstances demand that we stay.

Obama is not going to run an issues contrast campaign because he is a moderate, and McCain won't let him.


by souvarine on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:47:25 PM EST


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